Fact: Trump and his goons were already crushing dissent and looking for any path to do so, regardless as to whether they had an excuse or not.
Don’t let Trump crush resistance to fascism too.
Guess my sign has to be even more ultra offensive to Trump then
- Thugs stir the pot and cause protesters to physically react.
- BOOM! Martial Law.
- BOOM! BOOM! No midterm elections.
I hope this doesn’t happen. Don’t let the thugs goad you, you’ll be playing into their hand.
What you do doesn’t really matter. The police will start a riot regardless of your actions.
The thugs are mixed in with the protectors.
It’s been my worry for the past few weeks, tensions are so high and the administration is itching for the excuse to become even more heavy handed and draconian. I’m of the opinion this(not this moment but the full situation we find ourselves in) is all gonna end in massive violence one way or the other but I worry about this protest specifically because of how it’s been organized.
Requiring full and and email to RSVP to it? And how they’ve been working alongside the cops to make sure it’s just a demonstration and not a proper disruption. To me that screams bad opsec at minimum and if just one of the protests gets violent the fascists will get that list and use it as an excuse to round folks up and scare the shit out of others who want to stand against them.
I don’t want to tell people not to go, I went to pretty much every associated protest all summer in my area. But everyone should be extremely careful, don’t RSVP just show up, be wary of any bridges, and most importantly DONT BRING YOUR FUCKING PHONE
Bring it on, fascists.
It’s now clear that most people never cared about freedom of speech, or even understood why it’s important. They only care about freedom of speech as it applies to themselves. I suppose that’s distressingly true for all of the rights we used to take for granted.
Regardless, it’s still law, and the courts are still limping along, so there’s still hope.
I think the biggest hope we have left is that our military leaders swore an oath to the Constitution, and that they’ll honor that if Trump tries to stay in office come 2028. That is, assuming he hasn’t kicked the bucket before then. Exactly what this would look like, I don’t know. I suppose it just means the rigged-elected VP would become President, and we’d still be in a mess.
This is no surprise, I’ve been waiting for this a long time.
I’m assuming that this protest the trump admin will do everything possible to escalate and by sheer statistics, people will respond and there is a good non zero chance that fire will hit the shit that will hit a fan…
It is what it is. I fully applaud those that protest, I curse those that won’t, no matter your excuse. We’re talking about a future.whereany Americans may very well end up dead or well, imagine the excesses of nazi Germany. “But they will fire me if I protest” sounds empty and hollow at best.
Either way, god speed, don’t let yourself be tricked into violence, record record record, don’t let them take you either because when you disappear, good chance you won’t come back at this stage.
I’ll be leaving my phone at home, and writing my lawyer’s phone number on my body.
I strongly recommend others do the same.
Don’t forget your beautiful, very expensive paper. That’s the important part.
Well, then. I guess they’d better be so large, that local authorities have no choice but to stand back.
Friendly fire is a thing and it would be just terrible if it interrupted a couch interlude
Twelve year olds dude
The man’s a pederast
When do we put in for a general strike?
If you haven’t joined a union, do so. If you have joined a union, start agitating for a general strike and don’t let the legality of a strike stop you. People can’t force you to work. Air Canada recently told the government to get bent and “illegally” stayed on strike for 3 days until securing almost everything they asked for. You’re not slaves.
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The government shutdown IS a General Strike, one that really hits them where it matters.
We should embrace it in that spirit. We will hold the government hostage until MAGA understands that giving tax cuts to Sociopathic Oligarchs by cutting the health care to the rest of Americans is UNACCEPTABLE.
The government shutdown IS a General Strike
No it’s not a general strike. That is a lack of funding and OMB has a policy memo explaining how furloughed workers cannot work during a shutdown. It cites to 31 U.S.C. 1342. So, by law they are prohibited from working, thus this is not a strike.
A general strike would be to like not go into work for a few days en mass.
Black out the system https://blackoutthesystem.com/
Never heard of this, thanks for the link.
lol, strike in America?
most American workers would rather lick oligarch boots than look like a commie.
there hasn’t been one since 1919, not even with unpopular Vietnam was.
and they are illegal, and Americans love loving police boot and following the law like freedom loving sheep they are
1934? When Americans won our new deal? Bloody Thursday? Teamster Rebellion? Little UAW?
Tend to agree we aren’t ready but study your labor history if you wanna be an even cooler Albert.
We actually had a left in this country before Stalin and FDR destroyed it. Time to rebuild
FDR destroyed it.
Uhm, he’s the one who deployed the social safety net, implemented a regular work schedule and 40-hour work week when we had 80+ regularly, implemented overtime-pay requirements, put forth food stamps, and built up social security when none existed before. Seems pretty leftist to me. So how did he destroy the left when he had the most leftist presidency?
Do you mean Regan?
Def Reagan too, firing striking air traffic controllers and then overseeing and writing off blatant union busting and attacks on workers rights at the dawn of neoliberalism was a disaster for us.
But the answer is in your question. FDR didn’t give those things away for nothing, it was a conciliation to workers demands. In 1934 a nationwide strike wave shut down a number of cities from coast to coast, and in 1935 we got our new deal. FDR rescued capitalism from the jaws of socialism with social democracy. But the great depression was long and regular people were tired.
During ww2 he asked the workers movement not to strike, and they didn’t under the direction of his political ally Stalin. But without the ability to fight, the unions were bureaucratized and businesses organized against labor. By the end of ww2 the american left was gutted and couldn’t even fight against passing Taft-Hartley. That last point can’t be laid at the feet of FDR as he was already dead.
But FDR doesn’t deserve to be lionized, he played his part, legalized a labor movement that had earned its right to exist through our power, not his blessing. And as soon as he died, the right started scraping back those legal protections, so that Taft-Hartley was an easy nail to hammer in our coffin.
“How is good thing bad,” you say? The new deal was a tactical retreat on behalf of the ruling class against the ascendant working class. The state exists to manage the interests of the ruling class. Roosevelt wasn’t great, he was a representative of his class using the state to maintain capitalist control over the means of production. Once that was assured our rights began disappearing immediately.
Next time there can be no deal. The international, inclusive working class have to take power and fight to keep it, or we will lose it. The old American communists understood this, so had to be destroyed. The sooner we realize the liberal economic order is what brought us here to these horrible conditions, the sooner we can leave behind old illusions about reforms and private property and start to create something real.
FDR rescued capitalism from the jaws of socialism with social democracy.
He might have in fact done so, but recognize the culture of the time. Was he actually intending to rescue capitalism? Or were his policies the best that the oligarchs would accept at the time?
During ww2 he asked the workers movement not to strike
right, because there was a war on. What was more important, improving the life of striking workers after they staked a few social reforms/victories? Or, was it rescuing people from the Nazis who used gas chambers? Maybe it was also revenge for the dead sailors from Pearl Harbor.
Italy just had a general strike.
and look at all those countries that have just had a revolution.
the Americans ain’t got the guts for something like that
We shut down our entire government rather than let them take away our health care to give the money to Sociopathic Oligarchs. That’s a better response than a general strike. We tie their hands, but we keep getting paid.
You need to have a theory of change.
compared with other countries, US working class is quite tame.
that’s why they have so little to none labour rights,
I dont define things like this. I dont care really what people are, only what they could become. Consciousness and radicalism is shifting left, hard.
The active left is growing rapidly. Democratic Socialists of America has become larger than ever. In less than 10 years, we grew from like 10-15k members to 80k members, and still growing. Our unions, many of which were mired in bureaucratic stagnation, are seeing legit reform movements in some of the largest industries, with admittedly mixed results.
Remember that a general strike is illegal in the USA, and our people are very legalist minded. But reformer UAW president Shawn Fain is encouraging unions to renegotiate their contracts to end on May 1 2028. If all the contracts expire on the same day and all the different industries renegotiate, it isn’t a general strike. Its many small craft unions and a few big ones renegotiating at the same time. So no, we aren’t ready to have one today, but we are getting ready to have one in less than 3 years. While Trump keeps ruining everything, the people are getting prepared to shut it all down.
The die isn’t cast but its a good start and we are growing rapidly and improving in radicalism, experience and audacity. I’m very close to it because I’m an organizer, so I may have my biases, but I can also see the changes occurring.
i joined the DSA, and I want more unions, class solidarity, strikes.
it’s just so fucking frustrating how many workers will die protecting their oppression.
every protest where the organisers speak more about how to make sure the protest doesn’t inconvenience anyone.
Fuck, use No Kings protest to block the roads they are protesting in for a few days and the government will collapse and a new one who is terrified of the people will make good policies.
They can’t send the police to arrest half the nation. And if dems had balls they would state that they will pardon all the protesters who are detained. (Dems with balls, that’s like a horse with a horn)
but we can’t inconvenience a single driver. no no no.
When I lived in Barcelona, I think most protests blocked the whole road.
otherwise it is just a party, not a protest.
From someone with a mis-spelled user name.
This article is trying to crush the participation. Trump’s ego can not handle a protest like this.
Do you know how many National Guard they sent to Memphis? 9 so far, and they sent them to tourist areas as a Scare Theater along with the cops.
Exactly. They’re trying to scare us off. A little courage now may spare us the need for really scary things later.
That sounds like something a king would try to do. Just saying.
Don’t you love it when they prove your point for you?
- House Majority Whip Tom Emmer (R-MN) said in a Tuesday Fox Business interview: “We call it the ‘Hate America’ rally because you’ll see the hate for America all over this thing when they show up. … The rumor is that they can’t end this shutdown beforehand because this small but very violent and vocal group is the only one that’s happy about this."
It’s afraid.
Honestly I’m surprised the previous no kings protests didn’t result in protestors being gunned down en masse by the military
they wouldn’t do that we were completely peaceful and submissive to any police personnel in the area!
BRING IT ON YOU SHITGIBBON FUCK! WE. ARE. WATCHING. you will never see it
Well, good luck. Gonna need a much bigger group of fascists to crush any dissent.
They seem to be doing fine so far
