• ComfortableRaspberry@feddit.org
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    10 days ago

    Was it also sponsored by the “I want my kids to have a better life than me” crew who then complains about kids having it too easy these days?

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      9 days ago

      I want them to have it better and easier. But an easier life, not just an easy childhood that doesn’t prepare them for their inevitable crushing adulthood.

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        I want the opposite tbh, kids just don’t appreciate it. Send them to the mines first, and then give them an easy adulthood.

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          As a Gen-X, if I was a kid these days I’d be pissed too. It seems as much grief as they’re given by adults, they understand early on they’ve been given the worst hand.

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            9 days ago

            Our gen made such a big deal about being cynical, yet life ended up being SO MUCH WORSE than even we imagined. Although it does show we were right to be cynical.

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            Ya, m gut tells me teenagers are much more aware of just how bad it is because of their generation’s social media. I was pretty unaware at that age. I think there was a bit of a shift in societal values and the youth reflect it more as well.

            It has also steadily been getting worse and we keep telling them they are the ones who are going to get seriously shafted compared to the rest of us. That probably doesn’t help.

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              I wasn’t really aware of it as a kid either, but I don’t think I ever really heard about climate change stuff until Inconvenient Truth came out. It just wasn:t something that was talked about, because we weren’t really feeling the effects.

              I’m amazed (in a bad way) at how far we’ve fallen in 25 years, and I fear for the life my child will have as an adult.

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    The goverment paying off student loans is like bucketing water out of your boat and ignoring the hole. Like sure, its gonna keep some people afloat for a little longer but the issue hasn’t really been addressed, the problem is still there and the cycle remains a perpetual shit storm. The cost of education is preposterous, the people taking these loans dont have jobs to support paying it back, and most of them are too young to have the experience informing them of what a monumental undertaking paying it back will be. If they tried to get the same loan for a house or business they would be denied. There are so many issues to tackle but paying off the loans rewards the groups who created the problem in the first place. It incentivizes them to continue the foul play and prey upon vulnerable youth. Without some systematic reform accompanying the loan payoffs to ensure this doesn’t continue we will end up in the same situation over and over again.

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      While I fully agree the issue is the underlying problem… that is some All Lives Matter shit.

      Because basically anyone who brings that up as an excuse to not wipe the slate clean are in that same “We need to think really hard about how we do this and not do anything for another 30 years”. Same as most “Banning guns won’t stop gun violence” people. It is a bad faith argument that boils down to insisting that the perfect MUST be the enemy of the good.

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        Same as most “Banning guns won’t stop gun violence” people.

        This one doesn’t fit your argument. It might affect gun violence, but you’re ignoring the fact that people have access to a ton of ways of killing others.

        The main driver of violent crime is poverty and income inequality. The solution is to tax the rich, give everyone fair wages, provide universal healthcare, properly fund schools, etc. All things that are already part of the core liberals stance, and none of those involve introducing unpopular legislation that stomps all over constitutional rights.

        But heaven forbid we talk about actually fixing the root causes of violent crime. No, some people just want to ban guns to own the conservatives, and get mad when anyone pokes holes in the plan.

        Being pro-gun control is the liberal equivalent of being “pro-life”.

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          I think the comic strip in the OP was already a sufficient example of a bad faith argument but thanks for adding another one, I guess?

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          Not really. You can have a huge range of levels of control and regulation on guns. You can’t really have anything between life and not life.

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              limiting mag capacity or bump stocks isn’t an infringement on your right to own a gun. it just makes it so you have a gun that can’t shoot as fast or as much. or do you think automatic weapons should be purchasable? what about heavy weapons like autocannons? should i be able to throw a .50 BMG on the back of my pickup and drive around with it?

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    I totally agree with this. If someone is opposed to student loan forgiveness because they had to pay theirs off, that person sucks. But if that person thinks maybe they should get a portion of their payments back too, and not as part of opposition, then I am sympathetic.

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      if that person thinks maybe they should get a portion of their payments back too

      I think every one of them assumes they will never get a cent of that money back. They do live in America, after all, the land of “fuck you; got mine.”

      Change the legislation to give every living person back every cent they ever paid towards student loans, and many opinions would change.

      The Republican party would still be completely against it though, so we’d still have millions of boot lickers out there arguing to hurt their own financial situation in order to please their superiors.

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    This is som weird metaphor… So some people get voluntary “cancer” in hope theycan fight it and it will benefit them in the long run, and some don’t. While someone will have just the benefits and not the cancer while everyone chips in.

    I get that in the long run highly educated people tend to pay more taxes. So makeing education affordable in is a net benefit for everyone. But this analogy is just weird…

    I don’t know man, at the end of the day it is unfair, and making fun of that seems inappropriate.