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  • BussyCat@lemmy.worldtoAsklemmy@lemmy.mlWhat's a Tankie?
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    2 days ago

    That’s a debate since authoritarianism to libertarianism is a spectrum so there is no official “normal” and its generally used qualitatively on individual polices

    Regulated and censoring speech - auth Absolute freedom of speech - lib Limiting speech to prohibit only speech that can cause harm to others - somewhere in the middle

    Requiring the state to dispense all drugs - auth No drug regulations, no dea, no fda- lib Some drug regulations including requiring “generally recognized as safe and effective”- somewhere in the middle

    No country is full auth or full lib





  • BussyCat@lemmy.worldtoAsklemmy@lemmy.mlWhat's a Tankie?
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    2 days ago

    You are the one making it binary when it isn’t and when I say it isn’t you bring it back to being binary. You can have libertarian beliefs without wanting a complete dissolution of the government the same way you can have authoritarian beliefs while still wanting people to have individual freedoms. So yes you can have libertarian capitalism which is simply a less regulated form vs authoritarian capitalism. We can see this in the UK vs EU where the UK is requiring people to submit official IDs to see porn (auth) vs the EU passing data privacy laws (lib)

    You are inventing all these other arguments that I am not making. I have never said socialist countries have less freedoms and don’t even remotely believe that so if you are not making a strawman then try rereading what I am saying because you are arguing against an argument I am not making which is the literal definition of a strawman

    That’s called being authoritarian, there is nothing wrong with that and as long as the state is using that power fairly that can create a great society but you must realize that on a 1-10 scale of government authority with a 1 being full on anarchy and 10 being the state has full control to make all decisions that you are closer to a 10 then a 1

    As soon as you give the state power to go after people with different beliefs (even if those beliefs are deplorable) you are being authoritarian


  • BussyCat@lemmy.worldtoAsklemmy@lemmy.mlWhat's a Tankie?
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    2 days ago

    They believe in an authoritarian government systems. Where the state has extra power that they can use to enforce their goals. That is in contrast to anarcho communists where the state is dissolved.

    Logically most leftists fall somewhere in the middle as not wanting full on authoritarian government but also not wanting a complete lack of government

    In theory if the state has the best interests of the people, then by giving the state extra power all you are doing is reducing bureaucracy and increasing efficiency. That however also makes it easier for the state to abuse that power so I am not saying one is better or worse than the other


  • BussyCat@lemmy.worldtoAsklemmy@lemmy.mlWhat's a Tankie?
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    This is an intentional strawman right? Like there is no way you are truly misunderstanding this much?

    Auth governement dictates what individual citizens can/ can not do

    Lib government limits what power the government has over individual citizens

    You can’t say we are actually lib because we only are targeting the “bad people”

    Show your conviction and don’t dance around your point if you want a government that has more power over its citizens that’s fine, that’s your belief and you are fully entitled to it but if you can’t acknowledge your own beliefs that’s its own problem



  • BussyCat@lemmy.worldtoAsklemmy@lemmy.mlWhat's a Tankie?
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    It’s a spectrum and a person who supports the government having more control of their citizens is considering authoritarian. A person who wants to limit government control over their citizens is more libertarian.

    It’s a very valid belief that someone might want leftist policies with limited government control over individual citizens so calling them all tankies is inaccurate and confusing


  • BussyCat@lemmy.worldtoAsklemmy@lemmy.mlWhat's a Tankie?
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    On the political compass there are 4 directions. Left, right, libertarian, authoritarian.

    A tankie is auth left a fascist is auth right

    Saying everyone on the left is a tankie ignores the lib left it’s the same as saying that everyone on the right is a fascist which is also not accurate




  • BussyCat@lemmy.worldtoLemmy Shitpost@lemmy.worldSilver
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    3 days ago

    It’s not about a persons “only human connection” but it is a human connection that is being taken away.

    It’s literally not even about nobody liking you either… as you automate everything it becomes harder to meet people too and harder to have normal conversations so you end up as this weird sad person who sees a person asking for connection and responds by telling them they need a prostitute of to figure out why nobody likes them


  • You will play along by still completely missing the point…

    This is like me saying imagine you are getting peanut butter at the store and your response is I don’t like peanut butter…

    The human brain is incredibly complex. You should have the capacity to shut those eyes of yours real tight, turn your brain onto overdrive mode, and imagine a scenario where someone shows you a video and you have a desire to know if that video is real, if you can’t that’s fine but i am not going to waste my time I think most people get that skill during adolescence if you follow Piaget stages of cognitive development

    Individually doctored pictures with a doctored voice that is very convincing that can be strung together with such skill that it can beat even an amateur forensic analysis was essentially unheard of in the 2000s now a days you can submit an audio file and some pictures into a computer and get a result in minutes with no skill whatsoever


  • But it genuinely isn’t. You aren’t sending a message to the dems because they are way too stupid to realize that, they forced Hilary who was unpopular in 2026 Biden who was way too old in 2020 and Harris who had all of the negatives of being a vp with none of the positives

    It’s like trying to explain to a dog that the mailman doesn’t need to be barked at you can try all day but they retain nothing

    However when you mention the second most evil candidate, we wouldn’t be using the military against our own citizens, funding ICE more than most countries militaries, and attacking universities for allowing free speech

    That’s a pretty substantial difference, this country was literally damaged for a generation because some people decided that the 500lb bag was the same as the 5lb bag. I say decided but it was very much the work of complex propaganda movements


  • If I’m always given a choice between two bags of shit and one is always objectively worse I will always vote for the smaller bag it could be a 99lb bag vs a 100lb bag and I will still choose that 99lb bag because at a certain point you will be 99lbs done and at that point I really don’t want to stop and think god damn it I still have another pound of shit to eat just because I didn’t want to vote

    That’s at least how I feel now seeing the giant mountain of shit I still have to eat knowing I could have already been done with my pile if my candidate had won but at least now I know I voted for the smaller pile



  • Okay so change the scenario you are given a video that shows your SO cheating on you. Your SO denies it happens, can you trust video evidence?

    You are a member of a jury in a court of law and you are shown a video of the defendant killing another person the defendant claims it’s AI, can you trust video evidence?

    You are watching the news and they play a clip of a politician saying some bad things, can you trust the video evidence?

    You see a video of police beating a protestor, the police officer claims it was AI and the witnesses are antifa plants, CAN YOU TRUST VIDEO EVIDENCE?

    Literally it’s the same thing over and over again but for over 100 years we could trust video evidence with a decent amount of certainty and now in the course of less than 5 years the ability to spot fake videos just became astronomically harder and the ability to make fake videos got much easier. That should be scary to you because I can guarantee you in the next 10 years at least one innocent person will be put in jail because of AI video and at least one guilty person will be kept out of jail because the prosecutor could not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the video wasn’t AI