Too much time has passed if you come at me with something remotely intelligible Imabenoid how could I ever respond!? Tomorrow you rotted fuck, ferment on it.

Your false equivalence as an argument? You only got away with that because I was banned from replying. High thanks for bringing it up tho because I am pretty sure it stems from your own homophobia and I suspect we can get to the bottom of it.

I can accept the misogynist aspect of such a statement but i refuse the homophobic aspect of sucking dick, I recognize your experience with SA and BJ’s. Are you giving me permission to proceed because I don’t want to be a cunt uninvited.

So the reason you aren’t as accepted as you think you need to be is because you have a particular brand of socialism. To the west socialism is healthcare it is police accountability it is political fairness. None of these things apply to your concept of socialism because socialism is not an ideology it is, say it with me, social… pee my pants. no wait i mean ism in my pants. You can apply your brand but I will be here to fuck that brand in the face because you are the enemy of society by associating social…ism community…ism with dictator…ism.

You never claimed to assert freedom for society, community but you do think dictating is part of your cause. Because it is but you aren’t socialist at best you are marxist a fucking brand. A fucking brand give me face value capitalism you dumb cunt.

Essentially, supply and demand meet each other, but that doesn’t explain prices alone, why a chair sells for 100 USD while a car sells for 50,000 USD. What matters is the difference in resources needed to devote to create one, ie labor time and raw materials, as well as the extent to which machinery, ancillary materials, semi-finished goods, etc are used up.

For a car, you use up far more of these than for a chair. A sudden influx of cars, say, by discovering a hidden trove, or a sudden decrease, ie a warehouse exploded, will have temporary distortions on price. However, this central, “natural price” is what supply and demand press towards over time.

Further, since raw materials exist naturally, the difference in their value is driven by the labor required to extract them, refine them, etc. Each step in the process makes it more valuable, unless supply is kept artificially low or high. Further still, these are averages. If someone spends a lot of time making an equivalent chair, they aren’t going to be able to take it to market for a higher price.

The US is really only democratic for the capitalist class, the wealthy capital owners whose primary income originates from capital ownership. The US isn’t seeing cracks in democracy, but in the entire system of financial plunder that keeps it going. Capitalists in the US, facing internal market saturation and steadily falling rates of profit, have had to expand outward, leveraging a strong overseas millitary to keep the global south under their thumb.

The US Empire wasn’t the first, it’s merely the largest. Britain, France, and Germany have all reached this stage of Capitalism. World War I left them debt-ridden to the US, and World War II flipped the script, with the US flooding the world with dollars, later destroying the gold standard, leveraging its own debt to essentially tax the entire world. The entire west, or the “global north,” gains from this system with the US as the “top dog,” and is falling down with it.

In the modern era, however, the sheer unsustainability of that system is choking itself. Manufacturing has been hollowed out and is all handled overseas, and countries in the global south are throwing off the west in favor of more favorable relations with China. The rate of profit is falling, and overconsumption as the US Empire’s strongest card to keep demand up is faltering due to this. It’s a house of cards.

As for socialism, the easiest answer is the PRC. Public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy, governing the large firms and key industries, enabling them to plan for the future and actually meet their targets. Market mechanics are used primarily to make central planning more efficient. This century is going to be marked by China’s undisputed rise. As they continue to develop, market mechanics will continue to be phased out:

Other countries, like Cuba, manage to maintain higher quality of life metrics despite being under intense embargo than peer countries. The USSR had, in its time, the most rapid improvements in economic growth and quality of life in history. None of these countries have been perfect utopias, or anything, but all have surpassed the inherent unsustainability of capitalism.

If you want further reading, Michael Hudson’s Super Imperialism is a pretty good book on how the US Empire rose in the first place, as well as how it can’t continue forever, and we are merely observing its dying phase.

It isn’t about “discovering” new systems. Capitalism was not invented, it emerged from mercantilism and early industrial manufacturing within the boundaries of feudalism. It was never a choice to adopt it, it arose naturally as it subsumed everything else, extending the domain of private property. History is not progressed by people randomly discovering new ideas, but is a gradual material process, and the ideas that rise and fall are secondary to that and support that process. Liberalism arose because of capitalism’s rise and need for ideological justification.