cross-posted from: https://infosec.pub/post/36033796

Amid the ongoing shutdown, the HHS secretary wiped out entire offices that investigate disease outbreaks, manage infectious disease responses and collect data.

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      I’m just sitting waiting for it to either kill me or fail trying. And all I can do in the meantime is try to live life pretending like it’s not on a time limit

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    Even if the US somehow manages to have another election and elect a sane president, it will be an almost impossible task to undo all the damage the Trump regime did.

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        They literally laid it all out in Project 2025. There are some nuances to how it’s unfolding but this is what they wanted.

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          Exactly. I don’t know why anybody is surprised about this shit. They literally wrote down what they’d do once they came back into power. Project 2025 is their Mein Kampf.

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        Yeah I think this is the headline that finally did it for me. Hurting Democrats isn’t enough, hurting minorities isn’t enough. They want the country to no longer exist. They want a smouldering pile of rubble left, literally preferably, but they’ll accept metaphorical if that’s all they can get. The point of this administration is to destroy America and kill as many citizens in the process as humanly possible.

        No matter how bad it’s seemed I swear fucking God the next day it’s proven worse than that. At no point was it possible to accurately assess how royally fucked we are or how evil these Nazis are. And you’ll have Republicans defending all this shit even if they personally are being sent to the gulag. They’d say we’re overreacting even as they themselves are having the executioner’s hood forced over their heads. I don’t understand how it would be possible to use the power of government in more evil ways.

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          It’s accelerationism. You burn it down so you can rebuild it how you want. Once all is rubble they’ll say “You see? Democracy was just a pie in the sky experiment that was destined to fail. Now let’s go back to monarchy.”

          Remember who burned it down, and never forget, No Fucking Kings. Not now, not ever.

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        I really think revolutionaries massively underestimate how much of society is built on well functioning and enduring institutions, and how much more difficult it is to build them from scratch compared to reforming them (in many, but not all cases).

        That being said, the US is a basket case, so perhaps a revolution might be worth it.

        Still sceptical, though.

        (This is my biggest disagreement with some other socialists I’ve met where I live, which is not the US)

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    RFK is on track to have one of the highest kill counts for a powerful US figure in the first quarter of the 21st century. That is an intimidating sentence and yet it seems to be undeniably true, I don’t see how we can swerve from the path of mass amounts of unnecessary death in the US from disease. Shame on us.

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        RFK is on track to do a lot of damage, but he has some stiff competition.

        Yes but RFK genuinely terrifies me more than the competition, he is a super-critical confluence of stupidity, confidence and undisguised fascism.

        I am ADHD, RFK is intent on killing people like me off through his policy, that isn’t an exaggeration and he is likely to succeed by the look of things. The centrist position in the US is that people like me have had it coming, sooooo…

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    Another reason not to visit the US. They can’t prevent disease and aren’t even trying. All they want is your money.

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    Remember a couple of minutes ago when the world shut down because we were woefully unprepared for a pandemic?

    This is a smart money saving measure, theres no way a pandemic can happen twice.

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      You kidding? The Trump regime was rooting for the virus initially because it was killing “liberals”. Then they realized it was killing more of their supporters.

      Don’t be mistaken - this is meant to kill people. This is an attack on every man, woman, and child in the US.

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    Everyday these fucking assholes. That’s why I stopped speculating what else fucking damage they would do – stop giving the bastards ideas.

    They need to be stopped completely.

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      I’ve been saying this for many many years now. Republicans are simply too far right wing to engage in anything but total annihilation with. They’ve gotta go. I want to put them to work rebuilding society; they need to physically build public hospitals, colleges, parks, infrastructure, etc.

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    This has to be classic case of nurgle cultist wanting everyone to feel all of nurgles blessings.

    Someone burn nurgles garden again please.

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    The USA is simultaneously broadcasting to militaries around the world that America is going to ignore the Geneva convention/greenlight warcrimes, and they’re dismantling the infrastructure that would’ve been used to defend themselves against biological weapons.

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        it must be because in the case of RFK Jr he wouldn’t really care about race; he’d just want anyone with proper medical education gone so he wouldn’t have to hear the phrase “that’s the biggest crock of shit I’ve heard” every day.

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    Oh how I wish we didn’t share a geographic border with this fuck-up of a nation (with its ability to spread diseases directly to us). <cries in Canadian>

    … and how I also wish we didn’t have a significant cell of idiots within our borders who seem to believe the same insanity.

    EU, please take under your wing. Whatever faults may be there surely it must be better than this.

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      Monkeys Paw curls: you’re now a resource rich nation with little man power or military strength isolated from Europe geographically and Russia is your neighbor. “EU please take us under your wing”Ukraine2022-2026 Lmfaoo.

      You goofys are stuck with us on this ride to hell. Strap in and less bitching and whining.

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        Fuck that, I’m already buying nothing from the US, and I’m not the only one. Every time I go to the grocery store there’s fewer US products (because people aren’t buying them) and more products from Canada and elsewhere. Sure there will be an economic impact on Canada if the US collapses, but we’ll still have food and a functional country so we can adapt. We know the direction the US is going even if you don’t and we aren’t going to be pulled down into being a shithole country like the US is becoming.

        Russia is on the ropes right now, and the US doesn’t have a good track record with occupying countries and can’t even keep it’s government running right now LOL. Hegseth wants to turn the US military into being more like ICE and cowards like that would shit themselves before they even got close to actual combat.

        Your country is falling apart, everyone in the world knows it and is already figuring out how things will work after the US collapses, because you’re the only “goofys” that would go from being the richest country on the the planet to complete collapse because y’all got suckered by a shady real estate conman twice.

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          Once again, completely detached from reality. The right wing movements popping up in Canada and Europe are just a little bit younger than ours, they have the same resources at their disposal and they’re learning a lot of valuable lessons in real time from our dictatorship. You will get your dictatorship soon goofy ass. Look how quick you are to make friends, it seems like you are the perfect political target for the type of thing that is happening in America 🤷‍♂️. The Murdoch family will get you guys soon. Don’t worry. Just stay mad at us foreigners and lean into that nationalism you just regurgitated. Goofy.

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            Yeah and the rest of us are learning too. Look at the recent elections in Canada, Australia, Finland, etc. MAGA style politics were soundly rejected.

            Goofy Americans LOL. But you can still have a sense of pride over influencing the world (that seems important to you) but as a cautionary tale that no one wants for their own country.

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              What do you think the end game here is when the Nazis have a stranglehold on America? do you think their plan is to let you just sit there and do whatever you want? Do you think they plan on sticking to election interference or maybe get a little more aggressive? Like no one’s going to go after Canada in the later stages of this? Who’s going to come to your aid when you’re landlocked by the largest navy in existence? You’re goofy asses are in this with us. They’ve already started the claim of 51st state lmao. Just delusional to the interconnectedness of our two countries. Americas fate is your fate too.

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                I guess you realize now the MAGA style politics is losing traction outside of the US.

                The US invading it’s allies would be insane, and very costly. There’s a reason why countries don’t go to war with countries they do a lot of trade with. The US is already teetering on the brink of economic collapse and that would send it over the edge. Doesn’t mean it won’t happen, it was almost as stupid for Putin to invade Ukraine, authoritarians do stupid things sometimes.

                But that’s a low probability. You’re being goofy if you don’t realize a civil war within the US is a much more likely outcome than the US invading allied countries that will fight back. Of course Trump’s supposed “enemy within” will fight back too, but the US is already in a cold civil war states are sending soldiers into other states. It’s still cold since shots aren’t being fired yet, but it could go hot. I hope for your sake it doesn’t.

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                  I think there is a truly infinite number of plausible outcomes from here, not many would exclude Canada from the fate of the US. Americans are probably too lazy for civil war, but im not excluding that. This republican regime has friends in most nations and they are eager to buy more. There’s nothing chaotic about what’s going on in America, and Im not accusing you of mirroring our political beliefs, or claiming to understand yours. Im just saying there’s a reason why JD Vance is visiting Germany for AfD rallies. This doesn’t end with trump, and it doesn’t stop in America. No one is out of reach of the American economy or military. Calling Putin stupid while he still occupies Ukraine is a great analogy of how I see your perceived independence from this chaos. Yes it’s stupid, yes it’s still happening, and yes the toll in human suffering is astounding.

                  Your neighbor is a nuclear superpower spouting belligerent aggressive threats. Im just a US Citizen who’s been partially Russified along with the mass majority of this country. A psychopath has taken control of our nuclear arsenal and is holding the world for ransom in some kind of strange protection racket. Most of us are completely powerless and apathetic, surly this won’t devolve from here! Hopefully we do have a civil war and disarm ourselves before we usher in nuclear Armageddon. My money is on comrade trumps central economy and wealth redistribution to be the down fall. hopefully a real populist uprising and some French style revolution with guillotines, maybe a little WW3 as a distraction from popular uprising tho who knows.

                  They are still testing boundaries right now.

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              Germany seems to be having a hard time with their far right, Italy, Hungary, France. I think there are more examples. You guys fended off a polished PP but he’ll be back. Your wealth inequality and housing crisis ain’t getting any better. It’s just a matter of time. How are things in Alberta anyway? I’m going to take a wild guess and say you live on the coast? Or an internet echo chamber?

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                No, we get news all about Alberta throughout the country. There’s some idiots there to be sure, but they’re the minority. The oil industry dominates there and they’re only loyal to the almighty dollar. The farmers in Alberta don’t seem to like how things are going with the oil industry domination of their politics, and certainly don’t like the separatist bullshit promoted but the oil industry assholes that only care about money.

                PP has had to moderate quite a lot and Mark Carney is what we call a Red Tory… a conservative in the Liberal Party. Carney has a lot of popularity because he appeals to traditional conservatives and liberals aren’t going to be voting for PP, so that leaves the NDP which has lost the working class and seem directionless at the moment. PP is an internet weirdo (and only appeals to internet weirdos, not traditional conservatives) and there’s a very good chance he’ll be removed as leader of the party. There’s a significant probability that Doug Ford will replace PP next year, but in any case the Conservative rhetoric now seems to be all about them being tougher on the US than Carney. Even with PP has had to push that kind of rhetoric.

                See politics is more complicated that your simplistic view of things. There isn’t really any chance that Canada will fall in line with Trump, it would be political suicide to do so. The only grumbling I hear is that Carney is being too friendly with Trump.

                The other examples you listed are incumbents voted in before the tides turned.

                Consider the possibility there may be more going on in politics in other countries than people just mindlessly copying the US. But there’s an undercurrent throughout the world that Trump sucks (because he does) and politicians that resemble him are being rejected.

                Sorry, but the US is sinking ship and everyone else in the world knows this and is trying to get as far from you as they can to avoid getting sucked down with you. You’re the goofiest country in history going from the wealthiest country in the world to becoming a shithole country because something about your culture created the conditions so most of you got hypnotized by a real estate conman.

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                  Sorry, but the US is sinking ship and everyone else in the world knows this and is trying to get as far from you as they can to avoid getting sucked down with you. You’re the goofiest country in history going from the wealthiest country in the world to becoming a shithole country because something about your culture created the conditions so most of you got hypnotized by a real estate conman.

                  Im not arguing with any of that, cause you spitting facts. I know nothing about politics outside of the US. I just know that the people in power here absolutely have the money power and influence to do this to any country. It only took a couple generations here. You guys aren’t really getting out fast enough, no ones really acknowledging us as a military threat or an economic threat. Decoupling your investments and economies has not happened yet. Why is that? of ya fear of escalation, because it is a real threat to any economy, thus we are all in this together brother. you may not share the glory of the American civil war, but you will feel the economic effects, and hell the winner might invade you so there’s that. Need to do some immediate looting and pillaging to rebuild the empire ya know? Your national security is closely tied to USA stability. you don’t want hordes of refugees or troops flowing over your uncontested boarders.

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    “This administration only knows how to break things. They have made America at risk for outbreaks and attacks by nefarious players. People should be scared.”

    No, they should be mad. Mad as hell that this government is dismantling all the safe-guards that keep them safe.

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      This is a really good point.
      Republicans sell to their base that they need to always be on edge, scared of a threat that doesnt really exist so they think they are good at defending themselves and their families from threats.
      But this is inviting real ones. Legitimate threats and dangers to our lives that they will not be prepared to defend against the same way they can against a young person wearing clothes they think dont match their gender stereotype.

      They will view this as a positive that their protections are being taken away for them to have to protect themselves and it will kill people who thank the abusers for the privilege.

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      May I recommend that we, as a global community, not decide to allow rot to fester in a country with more nuclear warheads than any other on the planet and continually degrading safeguards for their inventory and security?

      That rot can go metastatic very quickly.

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        May I rather also recommend that we don’t leave good folks rot in there?

        They will be crushed, and can never help in the rebuilding of society