• Shay20@lemmy.worldBanned from community
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    So you want to be able to sentence ICE agents to death?

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      Lick that boot harder.

      We have plenty of videos naming and shaming cops who violate our civil rights, often times in deadly violations, and they’re all doing just fine and none of them faced anything more than sometime justice for the inhumane and civil rights violating actions.

      It will be the same here, name, shame and make sure they never work in any position of power ever again.

      ETA, yet another hours old troll account. To the block list you go.

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      I want inhumane behaviour dealt with accordingly, bit I am strictly against death sentences.

      It is horrible that USA still makes death sentences in my opinion.

      It is unforgivable, but mistakes happen everywhere.

      There are better ways to punish.

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        Right, so you want to execute US law enforcement personnel and defend foreigners instead?

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            Right, so unless you think ICE is literally the SS, you’re not welcome.

            That’s the definition of an echo chamber.

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              No no, you revealed yourself when you assumed that people who don’t agree with the existence of ICE want to “defend foreigners”. It’s nationalist shite, and it’s really old.
              Edit: and yes, it’s an echo chamber. That’s why I’m here: so I don’t have to deal with people like you.

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                “Defend foreigners”

                Yes, people who broke into this country illegally, aren’t from the U.S. and shouldn’t be here.

                What word would you prefer instead?

                And yes, you just want an echo chamber of people agreeing with you about everything. That’s certainly something.

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                  Unless you are a native American, you’re from immigrants and you’re just trying to pull up the ladder behind you.

                  Why do you hate foreigners so much?

                  Not at all, I like to disagree, that’s one way of learning new stuff. But your views are so at odds with reality there is very little chance of me learning from you.

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                “Why are you here”

                Why are you here? Why are any of us here? Why do you want an echo chamber?

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                  Well, I’m here for the light entertainment and pleasant discourse with like minded people.

                  Why are you here?

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                    I’m here because I enjoy an exchange of ideas and o believe that’s valuable for society.

                    Echo chambers are wildly boring and might as well be a circle jerk.

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              The “law” they’re enforcing is Trump’s edicts. Immigration law as it’s existed for some time doesn’t call for this kind of action. Trump doesn’t get to write law, that’s for the legislature. He’s there to carry out and enforce existing law, not create it, not reinterpret it, not ignore it, and CERTAINLY not to gaslight the American people about it.

              The way Trump treats law is literally un-American.

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        And illegals can self deport at any time.

        So if ICE doesn’t stop enforcing immigration law, then what?

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          Refugees can’t leave when they want. Otherwise they would not be refugees. Also, ice prevents people from even getting their papers on top of arresting citizens.

          And why should I care about what a bunch of pigs do? They can get real jobs.

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            “Can’t leave”

            They absolutely can.

            They wouldn’t pass through multiple safe countries otherwise.

            “Their papers”

            That’s called asking permission and coming in legally. Not breaking in and then asking permission.

            “Why should I care”

            Yes, I can see you’re not a fan of enforcing border laws.

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                “Constitutional rights”

                What are the two legal exceptions to due process when it comes to deportations?

                Obama used one to deport 2,000,000+’illegal immigrants without traditional due process.

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                    Sure, Trump is using the same exception as Obama did plus the second legal exception.

                    There’s also an extremely easy way to not have to worry about ICE, it’s called “don’t break into other countries”.

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        “Own addition”

        The comparison was to SS members.

        Should they be spent to a day spa instead?

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            Considering a bunch of people have said Yes, the death penalty? What should happen to “SS members”?

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                Are you?

                There are two legal exceptions to due process regarding deportations.

                Obama used 1 method to deport 2,000,000+ illegals with no due process.

                Trump is using both.

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                  Even crimes against humanity don’t make someone “illegal” or mean they don’t deserve due process. Even if deportation were an appropriate response (which it’s not), due process must still be respected. Including against Barack Obama and Donald Trump.

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                    “Illegal”

                    Breaking into another country literally means you’re there illegally.

                    “Due process”

                    Cool, what are the two legal exceptions to due process? Which Trump is using? It’s not illegally, you just don’t agree with it.

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      So you think they’re comitting horrific crimes against humanity on par with the nazis then?

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      If you picked up a history book, you would know there isnt much of a difference of functions in what ICE is doing versus the Gestapo back in WW2.

      Way to reveal yourself