Yes, this is about vainglory. Ukraine was seeing membership in the EU and the EU mandated reforms that would have addressed issues for minorities. The principle problem was the question of minority groups having school taught in their native language. That was a specific reform mandated. Following the process would yield the desired outcome without any Russian citizens being thrown into a meatwave attack. How has this war benefited Russian-speakers? So many deaths and scarred bodies and souls. The payoff isn’t there. The proposition only favors vainglory because the current path is more harm than any alternative. Regarding NATO, neither Hungary nor Turkey would ever permit this to happen and everyone knows it. Admission into NATO requires 100% support for all existing nations. Russia knows this would never happen. It isn’t about NATO membership. Putin wants to restore the Russian empire and he wants to be recorded in the history books as the man who made this happen.
Kiev already broke the Minsk Agreements that were meant to solve the issues of Ukrainian armament and oppression of ethnic Russians. There’s only so many times you can deliberately break international agreements before nobody takes you seriously. The Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics broke away a decade ago, and have been at war since.
As for Russia, what they gain is security. When diplomacy fails, they are taking the millitant route. I ask you, if this is for “vainglory,” why limit it to the Donbass region? Russia has proven capable of fighting an attrition war that Ukraine cannot, why not go for other areas in Europe? The narrative that Putin just wants to restart the Russian Empire, as though he wants to become the Tsar, is ridiculous. Not only is the Russian population benefiting massively from strengthened ties with China, it’s populace increasingly favors socialism over capitalism:
There’s no “meat grinder” here, Russia has been strengthened economically, and appears to be meeting its stated goals. There’s no backing to the “empire” narrative, of Russian conquest of Europe.
Yes, this is about vainglory. Ukraine was seeing membership in the EU and the EU mandated reforms that would have addressed issues for minorities. The principle problem was the question of minority groups having school taught in their native language. That was a specific reform mandated. Following the process would yield the desired outcome without any Russian citizens being thrown into a meatwave attack. How has this war benefited Russian-speakers? So many deaths and scarred bodies and souls. The payoff isn’t there. The proposition only favors vainglory because the current path is more harm than any alternative. Regarding NATO, neither Hungary nor Turkey would ever permit this to happen and everyone knows it. Admission into NATO requires 100% support for all existing nations. Russia knows this would never happen. It isn’t about NATO membership. Putin wants to restore the Russian empire and he wants to be recorded in the history books as the man who made this happen.
Kiev already broke the Minsk Agreements that were meant to solve the issues of Ukrainian armament and oppression of ethnic Russians. There’s only so many times you can deliberately break international agreements before nobody takes you seriously. The Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics broke away a decade ago, and have been at war since.
As for Russia, what they gain is security. When diplomacy fails, they are taking the millitant route. I ask you, if this is for “vainglory,” why limit it to the Donbass region? Russia has proven capable of fighting an attrition war that Ukraine cannot, why not go for other areas in Europe? The narrative that Putin just wants to restart the Russian Empire, as though he wants to become the Tsar, is ridiculous. Not only is the Russian population benefiting massively from strengthened ties with China, it’s populace increasingly favors socialism over capitalism:
There’s no “meat grinder” here, Russia has been strengthened economically, and appears to be meeting its stated goals. There’s no backing to the “empire” narrative, of Russian conquest of Europe.