• Fedizen@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    States should be taxing or increasing licensing fees on these vehicles to pay for the increased medical services because of these unsafe vehicles.

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      7 days ago

      The state is actually a big part of the problem in this case. Small gas trucks are effectively illegal.

      Automakers were fucking around with vehicle classifications in the 2000s to get around CAFE regulations. Things like the PT Cruiser were being classified as trucks. So starting in 2012, CAFE regulations were changed so that fuel economy standards were based on vehicle footprint. But it had a huge unintended consequence.

      Suddenly a Toyota Corolla had less-strict fuel economy standards than small commercial vehicles like the Dakota, S-10, and Ranger. Notice how all 3 models were discontinued by 2012? And now that the Ranger is “back” its footprint is larger than some old F-150s?

      As the CAFE standards get stricter over time, manufacturers have learned it’s easier to just make the car bigger than to meet the fuel economy standards. They’ve made the marketing about penisnsize and shit, but it’s really more about meeting regulations.

      A more recent casualty was small cargo vans. The Transit Connect, ProMaster City, and NV200 were all discontinued by 2022 because small cargo vans can’t meet CAFE. This is also why New York had to cancel its new Taxi fleet that was based on the NV200.

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    9 days ago

    They really should be! They’re like cockroaches here in Alberta…they’re everywhere.

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    8 days ago

    Yeah cars are bullshit. Yeah these vehicles are monstrosities that guzzle gas.

    But, sedans are too low to the ground. As a tall person, I need something SUV-sized (regular SUV like a buick envoy) just to get out of. The whole world is designed around someone who is ~5’7". I am 6’3". Getting in and out of vehicles, off of low rise furniture, and reaching down to get stuff off if grocery store shelves is a ROYAL PAIN IN THE ASS!!!

    I need a taller vehicle just to get out of. I basically have to crawl just to get in and out of an uber sedan.

    *Edit: I wish there was viable mass transit here. I’d rather have convenient metro rail. Absent that, I want an electric SUV

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        5 days ago

        Or alternatively, a bicycle

        Got hit by a car and died on one of those 2 years ago. The infrastructure in the US isn’t set up for bikes.

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    9 days ago

    THE NEW MAIBATSU MONSTROSITY

    Why drive a small car? Are you a small person? The new SUV Maibatsu Monstrosity guzzles gas and is equipped for crossing Arctic tundra! Driving one will make you feel good!

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    Since I live in a place where driving is necessary (Texas), I drive a smaller electric car.

    From my perspective, even small SUVs are far too big. If I’m behind them at a light, I can’t see when the light changes.

    I was recently surprised to learn that in other countries, they have popular versions of pickup trucks that are smaller than almost anything you can find here in the states.

    Anybody who buys a vehicle that size in OP’s picture would have to be a sociopath. They do not consider how other people are affected by their selfish actions.

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      9 days ago

      From my perspective, even small SUVs are far too big. If I’m behind them at a light, I can’t see when the light changes.

      Have you tried stopping further back? Works with lorries too. Also means you have room to manoeuvre without reversing if the vehicle breaks down.

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    Well, I assume the idea is to see the children before they’re that close…

    That being said, from my small vehicle I could probably tell what shoes someone is wearing from the same distance that the driver of one of these monstrosities can barely tell their hair color.

    I get why trucks exist, I just don’t get why so many people drive them as their primary or only vehicle when they don’t regularly haul anything more than groceries.

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      They have become prohibitively expensive to have as a secondary vehicle, if someone is in a position to need a truck occasionally, most people can’t afford to have it as anything other than their daily driver.

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        8 days ago

        If you only need a truck occasionally, rent one.

        I don’t understand the problem here.

        Also, these monstrosities are gas guzzlers, a smaller vehicle will be cheaper to run. Your argument lacks merit here.

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          8 days ago

          Renting a truck right now in my area is $200 a day. If I need a truck for a day, I will almost certainly not be in a place financially to rent one

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            7 days ago

            Reading your other comments, you’re probably one of few exceptions to the steadfast rule that people shouldn’t buy trucks. Sounds like you used your head when selecting one. Good job.

            I can fill up my little four cylinder vehicle for about $50 … Canadian money too.

            I’ve also poured over $100 into a truck and didn’t even crack a half a tank of gas. And I was thinking that the gas gauge didn’t seem to be going down any faster than it would have in my car… I realized when I filled it that the gauge represented 3-4x the amount of fuel.

            My average in my little car is around 6L per 100km… Maybe upwards of 7 if I’m doing a lot of city driving.

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            7 days ago

            You can rent them for $20 at Home Depot or Lowe’s. But, rent the vans, like actual workers use.

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          8 days ago

          Occasionally here doesn’t just mean “I need to haul a load of dirt twice a summer”

          It could mean you need it every weekend for a season, it could mean that sometimes you need a truck right this second but didn’t think you’d need one at all today.

          I’ll grant you that a large number of people who only sometimes need a truck could probably rent one, hell the big box stores near me will rent you one for like 30 bucks for an entire morning, if you’re lucky enough to get one. Some people do just like the fucking things. But a lot of people are using them for shit like baseball equipment and job site tools. Shit that literally lives in the bed of the truck because they do need it frequently enough to warrant having a truck but they also have to haul their children to school every morning and can’t afford a third vehicle just to keep the crap they need somewhat regularly in.

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            7 days ago

            Yep, these are all good points, but not entirely the kind of people I’m talking about.

            Yes, some people just like them. Those people have questionable taste.

            The kind of person you’re talking about uses the truck for professional needs.

            The vast majority of trucks I see driving around, haven’t seen an honest days labor. They just shuttling people back and forth from place to place.

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      EPA regulations on emissions, in relation to size, caused light trucks (and the SUVs based on them) to grow to the size you see. Ironically, the fuel efficient small pickup trucks and SUVs we grew up with in the 80s and 90s don’t meet modern standards. I die a little inside every time I see one of the Nissan trucks, like the one I totaled. ;_;

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        That’s bullshit. Most of the area behind the grill is empty space. Nothing to do with EPA ( which doesn’t even exist any more).

        The truck makers need to justify the ridiculous profit margins on these 60s era technology vehicles, so they just made them taller, to the point people need steps to get into them. I’m sure someone is working on an escalator.

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        8 days ago

        Our corporate owners sponsors don’t want us to be sterilized. They want us to breed more good little consumers.

        • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
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          8 days ago

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          • madjo@feddit.nl
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    • madjo@feddit.nl
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      7 days ago

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