• lobut@lemmy.ca
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    12 days ago

    Nah, Kamala had a stance on Palestine therefore this is the okay alternative. /s

    Good thing that situation is completely resolved now /s

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      God, get over it, kamala lost because she couldn’t get people to actually vote. Just like Hillary. Same shit would have happened to Joe if he stayed in the race. Kamala lost because the party fucking sucks so hard that they can’t out message the fucking GOP.

      The election was a year ago, stop bitching about how nobody voted because Palestine. If you don’t like it, fucking do something about it.

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      12 days ago

      "Had a stance’ lol she’s voluntarily complicit in a fucking genocide just like the rest of the corporate dems, you’re just upset that you weren’t allowed to trade palestinian lives for your own comfort and security

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        you’re just upset that you weren’t allowed to trade palestinian lives for your own comfort and security

        Is that why I’m upset? Good thing she lost and palestinian lives are perfectly fine now.

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          12 days ago

          Correct, you couldn’t care less about anything that happens as long as it doesn’t affect you. Harris could have won if she’d been willing to disavow Israel’s genocidal bullshit and believably commit to policy changes that would actually help the working class and reign in billionaires, but she said plainly that nothing would change because that’s what her billionaire donors told her to say and she doesn’t give a shit about anything but getting paid.

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            Correct, you couldn’t care less about anything that happens as long as it doesn’t affect you

            I like how you know me so well. Like I wasn’t at the Palestinian protests last week in London yelling at the Met police for arresting perfectly innocent protestors.

            I’ll leave it at this though single-issue voting is fucking stupid.

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              There were a whole lot more issues with her campaign than just her unwavering support for Israel, her explicit commitment to a wildly unpopular and unsustainable status quo and her baffling attempts to court conservatives clearly didn’t do her any favors. But even if that weren’t the case being a single issue voter is entirely justifiable when he single issue is a fucking genocide.

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                being a single issue voter is entirely justifiable when he single issue is a fucking genocide.

                Not when all the alternative was “more fucking genocide with a side of fascism”

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                    When did I say that? I live in fucking reality and could recognize that even though Harris sucked Trump was clearly going to be far worse for Gaza as well as everything else.

                    I’m sure you sleep well at night with your morals resulting in you not participating in a simple action that would have resulted in fewer deaths. Good job.

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                    Ok, so what candidate besides Harris stood a chance at winning the election?

                    Or, let’s try some basic math! What’s worse, one genocide or two?

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          Harris has been the recipient of over 9 million dollars from AIPAC. Do you think AIPAC is a charity? You think they can’t figure out whether a politician they’ve donated to is doing what they want or not? Or is this just another case of “bad when the other team does it/fine when my team does it”?

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        Goddamn.

        I literally just started internetting today and you’ve already subjected me to the dumbest comment I’ll see all day.

        I mean I guess I can see it as glass half full. It’ll only get better for the rest of the day.

        Welcome to reality where politicians can’t just break international ties with a geographically strategic ally because a bunch of people want to ignore geopolitics and operate 100% off their feelings.

        By the way, how’s Trump looking on Palestine?

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          Palestine is exactly as fucked as they would have been under Kamala Harris, recipient of 9 million dollars from fucking AIPAC. You stand for absolutely nothing, you deserve Trump and worse.

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        12 days ago

        It was so bad that we had to make the Palestinians suffer more by letting a fascist win instead.

        GO AMERICA!!!

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          The media is mostly controlled by republicans and anti-left billionaire centrists, so yes msnbc wants you to think people who care about gaza are the only people responsible for the last election just like they want you to believe that trans people “going too far” are why gavin newsome will lose the general election in 2028 (despite a large portion of democrats being LGBTQ voters and him falling into many right wing pitfalls on the issue)

          I haven’t seen any math that holds up that gaza lead to Trump’s win on its own. What it likely did is create a lack of volunteers that led democrats to lose. You can’t scold people into knocking on doors, that’s a “lead by example” situation.

          Democrats stepped on a lot of fucking rakes by trying to triangulate immigration and homelessness as well as catering their messaging to (and enriching right wing media with ad revenue in the process) people who will never vote for them.

          Specifically Trump has also said Elon helped him rig the election. Elon musk and other social media owners hire people that understand psychology and will make AI clones of the most annoying people they can find and bury twitter in bots emulating those people just like they already find the people that upset conservatives the most (scientists have found conservatives overreact to disgust) and use that to ragebait them constantly. I’ve seen people calling themselves anarchists on this site who mimic media talking points about “online leftists”. Psychology works.

          Assume somebody that makes more in a day than you will make in 100 lifetimes is spending a small fraction of their money trying to make you blame the people next to you for your problems instead of themselves because billionairs are doing exactly that.

          If there are future elections any time soon, knocking on doors is going to be a lot more effective than screaming into an internet void full of chat bots that all disappear after elections. But if democrats spend all their money and goodwill buying ads on fox news again we’re doomed.