That tram can probably single handedly carry as many people as that highway in rush hour where the cars are driving at snail pace anyway. Can someone do the math?
well youโd need some more parameters, like a single tram isnโt going to carry as many people as the entire freeway, simply because the freeway is extremely absurdly disgustingly long.
But one tram fitting all the people in this photo? maybe, iโd say probably 2 trams, with the average number of people in a car being 1.5 and i think the tram pictured is a Melbourne class E which fits ~200 people. But bear in mind iโm dogshit at visual measurement so maybe iโm completely wrong and thatโs actually only 50 cars or itโs 5 billion cars.
lol no, thatโs how it works in canada and itโs shit.
This is precisely the place where light rail makes sense: itโs most of the benefits of heavy rail but way cheaper, so you can build more of it and run more vehicles, and operate like a metro in the suburbs but as a tram in the downtown.
Basically what you want is Portland but with 10x as many lines.
Youโre never going to convince most people to give up the comfort of their own personal box. I say that as someone that has spent 7 years as a bus driver in seattle. Iโd love to see more public transit use but even I prefer taking my car to work and I ride for free as an employee lol.
I even have access to a route that is basically a straight shot to work but itโs still over double the time of driving myself because it has to make stops along the way , and you have to deal with the people that even though they ride the bus every single day and they know that theyโre going to need their money and they see the bus coming from like a block away will not try to dig their money out of their pockets until they are standing in front of the driver so it takes forever.
And then you have to deal with other peopleโs possible smells, you canโt just like blast your music and sing along with it, you donโt get to control what the temperature is so if you have a driver that likes the bus to be 75 and that makes you uncomfortable well thatโs just too bad for you. Etcetc
And thatโs the part that people forget when they are complaining about cars is they only address the traffic and other problems that are genuine but they basically just tell people suck it up princess about the genuine Comfort differences same with people that tell you to bike everywhere I donโt want to bike in the rain or the snow. I am fully aware that rain gear exists that doesnโt make it comfortable for me i love my bike but only in like fall weather where itโs cool out so I donโt overheat but not raining or snowy or anything like that lol
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That tram can probably single handedly carry as many people as that highway in rush hour where the cars are driving at snail pace anyway. Can someone do the math?
Math guy here, thereโs too many fuckinโ cars.
well youโd need some more parameters, like a single tram isnโt going to carry as many people as the entire freeway, simply because the freeway is extremely absurdly disgustingly long.
But one tram fitting all the people in this photo? maybe, iโd say probably 2 trams, with the average number of people in a car being 1.5 and i think the tram pictured is a Melbourne class E which fits ~200 people. But bear in mind iโm dogshit at visual measurement so maybe iโm completely wrong and thatโs actually only 50 cars or itโs 5 billion cars.
I love living in Melbourne, sending this from the route 86 tram
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many cities have wide highways, cutting through dense areas, where you would want a tram.
lol no, thatโs how it works in canada and itโs shit.
This is precisely the place where light rail makes sense: itโs most of the benefits of heavy rail but way cheaper, so you can build more of it and run more vehicles, and operate like a metro in the suburbs but as a tram in the downtown.
Basically what you want is Portland but with 10x as many lines.
Youโre never going to convince most people to give up the comfort of their own personal box. I say that as someone that has spent 7 years as a bus driver in seattle. Iโd love to see more public transit use but even I prefer taking my car to work and I ride for free as an employee lol.
I even have access to a route that is basically a straight shot to work but itโs still over double the time of driving myself because it has to make stops along the way , and you have to deal with the people that even though they ride the bus every single day and they know that theyโre going to need their money and they see the bus coming from like a block away will not try to dig their money out of their pockets until they are standing in front of the driver so it takes forever.
And then you have to deal with other peopleโs possible smells, you canโt just like blast your music and sing along with it, you donโt get to control what the temperature is so if you have a driver that likes the bus to be 75 and that makes you uncomfortable well thatโs just too bad for you. Etcetc
And thatโs the part that people forget when they are complaining about cars is they only address the traffic and other problems that are genuine but they basically just tell people suck it up princess about the genuine Comfort differences same with people that tell you to bike everywhere I donโt want to bike in the rain or the snow. I am fully aware that rain gear exists that doesnโt make it comfortable for me i love my bike but only in like fall weather where itโs cool out so I donโt overheat but not raining or snowy or anything like that lol
have you, like, ever seen cities outside of america? How many people do you think own a car in tokyo?